Curse

Mist Walker Skarloc · May 05, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

I've had a long period away from Guild Wars, I'm not entirely sure why. I guess I've just been doing other things. Recently, however, a couple of friends asked me to come on and help them with some missions. I did so and stayed on for a while and decided to make a paragon.

Anyways, I want to make this paragon good and use it because paragons seem pretty cool. Unfortunately, there's little I hate more than the Nightfall starting area.

I know you can do it, so please motivate me to keep playing my paragon. Sit on my shoulder and whisper in my ear telling me about how awesomely awesome paragons are, how much they rape enemies and how much better off I'll be with a decent paragon.

Builds would also be greatly appreciated, especially paragon healing for me to try, high DPS builds and the godmode imbagon.

Thanks in advance, and inb4 any attempts to persuade me NOT to continue my paragon.

Sethellington · May 05, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869

Hodgie · May 05, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

You mentioned prolly the best reason in the OP...........Imbagon if you cannot find another reason to use paragons, a few spring to mind, then being an Imbagon is the best reason to be a gd old paragon.

Avai · May 05, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

God mode. 'Nuff said.

Dr Strangelove · May 05, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

[save yourselves]
[there's nothing to fear]

Happy immortal button mashing.

Sir Owns Alot EP · May 05, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Being a ranged warrior who can empower the entire team and remain highly protected himself seems like a good enough reason.

Having infinate spears is another.

Quantisha · May 05, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

The fun thing about paragon is the idea to simply reduce damage in the most effort-less way possible.
I tend to use ["Save Yourselves"! (Luxon)] or [Save Yourselves] and [There's Nothing to Fear] along with [Aggressive [email protected]] and [Focused [email protected]]. With these skills, you provide double the adrenaline with the attack speed increased to 25% faster.

You can consider bringing a short recharge/ short duration shout such as ["Watch Yourself"] or [Anthem of Flame] in order to keep the 25% attack speed boost, as well as the Cracked Armor :P

Also, skills like [Holy Spear] and [Spear of redemption] are low in adrenaline, thus providing moderate damage while building adrenaline.

My most favorite thing to use with Heroes is ["They're On fire"@10 ] and [Song of Power] with [Searing [email protected]] Eles. This provides extra damage reduction and great energy management for after battles.

There's always something fun about each profession, and you will find that build you like. So go ahead and try anything out. Just do not try a [Searing Flames] P/E.

Mist Walker Skarloc · May 05, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Ok, thanks a lot for the replies everyone. Congratulations, you've convinced me that spamming TNTF is worth suffering Istan for.

A cargoship full of interwebs for Sethelleington and Quantisha for the build and skill ideas, they've both helped a lot. And no, I will not be a SF Paragon.

Sir Owns Alot Ep: Good point, infinite spears. Where the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do they keep all the damned things?

Thanks again for all the replies, I'll start working on getting the skills I need next weekend after my lovely exams.

Edit: bad spelin

Richardt · May 05, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc

Sir Owns Alot Ep: Good point, infinite spears. Where the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do they keep all the damned things?

Me and my guild have a couple theories ranging from "Oh they just pull it back cause they attached string to it before throwing it" to "Paragons carry around a little dimensional wormhole....".

In addition to the other things people have suggested, I would also noodle around in the Starter Paragon thread-sure it's a little outdated, but it gots some good stuff in there and if nothing else-will give you some ideas of your own in case you get creative.

Antithesis · May 05, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Pointless thread FTW. Asking if Paragons are good in a Paragon forum...

You've answered your own question in the OP.

isamu kurosawa · May 05, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

My para also got legendary survivor, cleared DoA, UW, FoW, SF, tombs with a total of 3 deaths.

Bront · May 06, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Paragons are also fun in groups.

Run your paragon with the paragon henchie when you need henchmen, as they'll help you keep up your echos. Get the 2 Paragon heroes, and you can run Rac's Paragon Buddies build (in the Heroes/AI section) which can supposedly mow through most areas.

I'm suprised you don't like Istan. I've found it to be rather enjoyable compared to the begining area of Factions, and faster moving than the Pre-Searing/Post searing Ascelon. It wasn't too much of a problem to explore the entire island while dong quests (and grouping quests), and if you want to rush though it, you simply go into EotN and level up to 20 there, and then just do the primary quests/missions. To each their own I guess. At least it isn't that hard to get up to R6 sunspear on Istan for TNTF.

StormDragonZ · May 06, 2008, 05:54 AM // 05:54

That's easy:

It's a new challenge for you to try.

Axel Zinfandel · May 06, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Nightfall is probably the easiest starting area IMO :/ Ascalon is slow, Factions is a bitch due to absolute failure of faction henchmen, and henchmen in general. Nightfall gives you heroes. They not be as good as real players, but at least they are better then henchmen.

Oh, and Imbagon FTW. Only thing bad about Paragons is the overall lack in number of good builds, because once you start running Imbagon, you won't stop. Sure it's extremely effective, but it's boring after a while just button mashing and winning.

Bront · May 06, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Oh, and Imbagon FTW. Only thing bad about Paragons is the overall lack in number of good builds, because once you start running Imbagon, you won't stop. Sure it's extremely effective, but it's boring after a while just button mashing and winning.

That's something I've seen as a problem with both of the Nightfall professions, mostly because of a lack of Elites, but also due to a lesser selection of skills. Factions professions at least got some extra elites in Nightfall.

Boren Supremecy · May 06, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

im not satisfied unless im seeing a bunch of pretty yellow numbers on my screen and im not seeing that with my paragon like i do with my necro

i know the damage reduction and party buffs are amazing but u don't really get to see the effect...u just got to imagine that the monsters really punch like my lil sister

Mist Walker Skarloc · May 06, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Thanks again for the extra replies. Good job isamu kurosawa, that's very impressive! I doubt I'll be able to do it, but it'd be fun seeing how well I compare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

Pointless thread FTW. Asking if Paragons are good in a Paragon forum...

You've answered your own question in the OP.

I wasn't asking if paragons are good. In fact, I wasn't asking anything. Look at the OP, there's not a single question mark there.

Bront · May 06, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by Boren Supremecy

im not satisfied unless im seeing a bunch of pretty yellow numbers on my screen and im not seeing that with my paragon like i do with my necro

i know the damage reduction and party buffs are amazing but u don't really get to see the effect...u just got to imagine that the monsters really punch like my lil sister

Lots of numbers aren't always as impressive as big numbers.

I regularly do 70-80 in a single attack of my paragon.

Plus, Anthem of Flame and Go for the Eyes makes others do more damage, which works quite well.

There are party energy management skills for a paragon too in [[Zealous Anthem], [[Aria of Zeal], and [[Lyric of Zeal]. It's not a lot, but it can be quite helpful to give that little boost to the party (particularly Zealous Anthem is quite useful to help warriors, rangers, dervishes, and other paragons out).

Yeah, it's not a pure damage character, but honestly, not every one should be, and you're usually more valuable to the party that way.

odly · May 06, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05

Please don't play a nerfagon.

Paragon's have been so badly nerfed that the only build left to play relies completely on auto attacking the nearest target and spamming a PvE only warrior skill.

ZenRgy · May 06, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by odly

Please don't play a nerfagon.

Paragon's have been so badly nerfed that the only build left to play relies completely on auto attacking the nearest target and spamming a PvE only warrior skill.

I lol'd. Save Yourselves! Is good on a paragon, yes. But useless without it? No.